I bought a Beeman 2004 ten days ago. Last Post RSS pluric (@pluric) Joined: 3 years ago. Hacking the 1322 – armed with a 3d printer and tools, I undertake to make a quiet, accurate 1322 for as little money as possible. Member. It really does break nice and clean. Posts: 768. Airgun Depot had them to my door in two days. Shipping both ways would be more than the gun. The trigger is adjustable so I took a little slack out of it by turning in the adjuster grub and polished the top of it as well. You can't expect a manufacturer to be too detailed on this price break of a gun but it was pretty rough. Beemanp17 mod questions. A strange twist of fate allows me to shoot mine at stock speeds with an LDC attached. However, due to the typical problems in China with perhaps lack of attention to details, the copy is not even close to the original in terms of performance and reliability. My son came over this morning and tried it. Any tips on how to make it lighter? I picked up a P17 a few weeks ago and I'm very impressed on how great it shoots out of the box. BTW, it’s easy to go down the rabbit hole modifying this gun. I couldn't believe a $30 gun could get such positive reviews, especially the trigger. I believe there are still gains to be had with even longer barrels, but that’s hopefully a subject of a future post. The P17 is just as accurate, but shoots a little hotter for some reason. The p3 is much better quality. I’ve done some other tweaks, replacing the piston o ring with a slightly larger #117, upgrading to higher quality o rings, slightly drilling out the transfer port, reshaping the end of the valve stem, and working over the trigger mechanism. Further filing of the solder might improve velocity further by allowing a longer backdraft. The fiber optic front sight is a bit too large for a target pistol and completely obscures the center of a typical pistol target at 10 meteres or greater. The Beeman P17 looks like a generic pistol because it is a pistol. The piston only backdrafts for about 1″ of stroke, at full cock, there is an additional .5″ of stroke available. October 18, 2019 at 5:06 pm Link. Views : 1853 Likes : 0 . Get a roll of tin duct tape place two( maybe three )  layers over the piston face to tighten up the clearance . What mod … Press J to jump to the feed. Attached is a photo of my Beeman RS2 (top) and a 1990 RWS Diana 34. It shot as good and smooth as my FAS 6004 and it cost 15 times less. The brand new FX Crown MkII IN STOCK NOW at Baker Airguns... Pyramyd Air launches Build Your Own Airgun! I have to give this round to my son. I have a .22 barrel that is long enough to make two out of. 193. I took the gun completely apart to inspect and tune it, but the only real mod I did was shorten and lighten the trigger pull. once  produced a  30 yard off hand  kill shot on a   feathered pest  garden raider. I would highly recommend it. Price: £2.31 OR058 O Ring. Here’s a shot showing the pickup, note that it is inside the boundary formed by the steel fingers: The P17 carbine looks sexy with its carbon fiber LDC and is unbelievably quiet. In conclusion I’m very pleased with the customer service of the shop but not so happy with the Beeman 2004/P17. The perfect plinker now with an all-weather synthetic stock!.. This will bring the velocity up close to 470 fps with 7.3 grain pellets . I know all the online vendors but is there some store I'm missing that carries these? I remedied this by applying a blob of solder between the fingers and shaping it to match the profile of the fingers. Powerful .22 cal.. C$149.99 Quick shop QB78 Deluxe .22 Cal . Up to 4 now. There is also a lock for the trigger. I was looking for a pellet pistol to get me through a few months, and could not help but notice the glowing reviews of the P-17. I recently got a beeman p17. At any rate, it is a almost silent setup with enough power and accuracy in its current form to take out mice, house sparrows, and the like. Very fast shipping. With a quick search you’ll find other nice mods and fixes. The only thing so far I'd like to modify is the trigger pull. Very accurate;Crosman 2240 Carbine w/ 17" .177 cal.barrel Built from the bottom up with spare parts by Mike N., 1/2" @ 20yds;Tech Force® S2-1X Air Pistol .177 cal. Boerne (San Antonio) Field Target Club First Match of 2021 on Saturday, January 16, Nevada State Championships AAFTA GP Match- 6/11, 6/12 & 6/13, 2021, Field Target match Saturday Jan 9th at TCRC, Pleasant Hill NC, Latest Post: Air Arms S400 Repair Our newest member: plk Recent Posts Unread Posts Tags, Forum Icons: Forum contains no unread posts Forum contains unread posts Mark all read, Topic Icons: Not Replied Replied Active Hot Sticky Unapproved Solved Private Closed. To hold the valve open allowing the piston to backdraft air through the transfer port, I left space between the fingers and filed the solder to alter the timing: Yes, there’s a little too much moly grease in there. My local Walmart had a close out sale on these several years ago and I picked up two of them. Adjustable for pull weight and over travel. I’ll clean her up a bit when I reassemble after the photo shoot. Beeman p17 user manual. Would gladly give up the second half in exchange for someone doing the machine work to fit . Thank you. Normally the only air pistols that interest me are match pistols- those capable of making one-hole groups at 10 meters, with triggers that can be set to just a few ounces. Very helpful. This trigger looks and feels great. View all posts by Geo. Interested in getting one of these for a steal . I stretched the trigger spring out to take some tension off. I am amazed how well it feels and breaks for a $30 gun. Beeman P17 Mods – modifying a Beeman P17 to the extreme. At first I thought the piston was leaking so I cleaned all the piston manuzl and lightly lubed it with white lithium grease as suggested in the manual. Not at that price. For well over a decade, I have shared my passion for airguns on this website. Felt good but I changed it to over a pound. So heavy for me. Would grab a few for that price. There’s also a Model 1327 which has a 2,000 PSI fill pressure and QB78-style trigger and stock. There is also a wire inside the trigger that acts a guide which a sear passes thru, and if that's a tight fit you need to sand the wires a bit. But I like to tinker and figured it could be even better. Plus the mods in the pix: You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. Shooting the 880 Quietly – enjoy quiet shooting with your Daisy Powerline 880 with these simple tips and tricks. Beeman P17 trigger mod. After some similar work to what you have done here and some other mods, they are really fun shooters. I accomplished this by using a drill and 1″ belt sander to turn down a Crosman .177 barrel to mimic the stock pistol barrel. ? I took it back to the shop today and had it replaced. Post Jan 11, 2015 #1 2015-01-11T14:03. At first it dropped the pull to under a pound. The famous QB78 - There really is not a better rifle for the.. C$179.99 Quick shop QB78 Synthetic .22 Cal CO2 . 193. rom69erz. For any spare parts not listed for the P-17 / Marksman 2004 guns please feel free to contact us. Sharp Shooter Forum Sponsor User Info Menu. The Beeman P17 being a Chinese copy of the German HW40, had some great features. Thread Tools. "Cream of the crop in my pistols collection"; Beeman P17/Marksman 2004 One-Pump Pneumatic.177 cal. Both hard to cock I added 17fps on one pistol and 20fps on another using this mod. Chrony put them a very consistent 398-402 fps. If you haven’t seen the video of it on my homepage, I’ll include it here: In the video, you can see it is no longer a pistol, but has been turned into a carbine. The front end of the plastic “slide” has to be drilled out to 7/16″ to allow the barrel to slide through. I couldn't believe a $30 gun could get such positive reviews, especially the trigger. It's super fun and I really like it. Oh, and can you do mine too :)? C$159.99 Quick shop Beeman QB Chief .22 Cal . 1 Attachment(s) I was glad to see that Pyramid announced the Beeman P-17 as the 4th best selling pistol in their lineup. « Reply #5 on: May 20, 2009, … As much as I love shooting, it didn’t take me long to wear my P17 out to the point where it wouldn’t cock the hammer. Its look good, shoots better. We literally opened the packaging, walked into the back yard and my son and I started to shoot them. The Diana was given to me in a terrible state. The trigger is probably the best feature of this pistol because it is very light and crisp with a definite first and second stage. Replace you Plastic KEL TEC P17 Parts with Precision CNC Machined Aluminum KEL TEC P17 Mods! Brass trigger with two 4-40 set screws and Trigger Return spring. Group size at 15 yards is amazingly small from a rest. Here is an update shooting the gun with polished trigger. His target is on the left. I've enjoyed shooting and hunting with airguns since my early teen years. If I had to rate the overall cosmetic quality of the Beeman QB78 Deluxe, I’d score it 70%. That’s pretty-well a repeater version of the existing Beeman Chief. Topic starter February 8, 2018 23:25:18 . Available Spare Parts: 5 x Beeman P17 Piston Seal O Ring – Part No: 2460 BK112 £ 4.67. Still can't believe it. Thanks. Interesting note is this gun seems to shoot the oversized Crosman Premier Pointeds really well which my other guns seem to hate. Airgun depot is going to have a 15% off + free shipping Fri to Mon. I tore it down and figured out what was going on – the steel fingers on the back of the valve had worn and stretched to the point that they no longer engaged the hammer, leaving the valve constantly open. If you install a 10” barrel with the tape ,it will go over 500 fps with the same pellet. There’s also porting the valve outlet , it can be done with a Dremel and small diamond bit , I try to round off the sharp corner . Things I liked: After much consideration, decided to step up from the Beeman P17 (MIC) to the Beeman P3 (MIG by Weihrauch). Chevota Post subject: Re: Beeman P17 Mods & Issues. The Beeman P17: Best bargain in air pistols? 20 yards, 6" Shoot-n-C target using JSB 7.33 pellets. On both p17's the trigger failed with a week. Additionally, the trigger of the Beeman QB78 air rifle is finished beautifully with the gold-bolt handle. I was really enjoying it and finding it to be incredibly accurate (even in my novice hands) when it developed a trigger problem such that the trigger would intermittently fail, especially when pulled slowly. Price: £3.64 P144 Ram unit. Custom KEL TEC P17 Aftermarket Parts for Competition Level Performance by Combat Veterans! Toys4LifeC5. You are correct, the gun is simply amazing. Vinyl tape is pretty cool because it compresses under stress just like the oring does. (SSP) The P17 is a very good buy. Participant . ? (Lol). The Beeman P17 is a great addition to any airgunners collection or would make a great first airgun for someone looking for a simple backyard plinker. ***This trigger WILL NOT WORK with the Gen2 Benjamin Fortitude*** This is a nice upgrade to the stock, plastic triggers. The only thing so far I'd like to modify is the trigger pull. I got mine from Airgun Depot. ? I give the front sight ramp, glow-sight, gold accent bolt and trigger high marks. I am using RWS pellet 8.3grains, 400fps. I was just short of shocked how fun they were out of the box. Archived. rom69erz. Guys, I have had this pistol for several years now and for a low dollar gun you wont find a better trigger. In stock. I haven’t been checking the ADRider air gun thread lately. Beeman Air Rifles When you want one of the most advanced air guns on the market today, make sure you check out this selection of Beeman air rifles from Airgun Warehouse. It has a good trigger and can be accurate. There is no need to pretend that it is a semi-auto pistol. Please find below the exploded parts diagram, parts list and available spare parts for the Beeman p17 / Marksman 2004 air pistol. The Beeman QB78 deluxe comes with a manual guide for the adjustable trigger. The sears contact points can be smoothed and sharpened if you like. Walmarts near me don't stock them (southern NY) and in some distant Walmarts they were $17 on sale. Full Member; Posts: 184; RE: Gopher, please read! If you would like a longer barrel or a .22 caliber barrel for your P17, feel free to contact me. But I’ve heard so many good things about the P17 that when I saw it at Amazon for under $33, I decided to bite and see why it had such a strong following. To shoot at full power, the LDC would have to be removed between shots, quite inconvenient. If you need to repair or upgrade your Beeman or Weihrauch air gun, you'll find what you need at Airgun Warehouse. Not bad for a completely untouched stock gun shooting a bit beyond it's intended range. Want to do a .20 and .22 barrel conversion. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Beeman P17 / Marksman 2004. Barrel seal Beeman P17 . Looking at your video... RE: I have a DayState MTC With Black Tactical Stock in .177. indeed ... is there any progress to share ? 3. After reading about the P17 coming up several times in the "Cheap airguns that surprised you" thread I had to try one. I want to put a silencer or suppressor on it just because why not. Is this the same "Mr B" from ADV rider? With the long barrel, the velocity is up to 484 fps. The P3 overall has a better build, a better finish and a more solid feel in the hand. Here’s what it looks like at full cocking length with LDC in place: I think there is still timing optimization waiting to be unlocked. Price: £38.99 PG102 Grip RHS. Form follows function. Thanks. A longer barrel adds an amazing power increase. Close. One of the most popular airguns available. So I got out the polishing stones and went to work. T&Cs | Rules | Limitations | Privacy Policy. The top of the p17 had sharp edges that dug into my hand when cocking the gun. It is one of the best values in air pistols on the market. I know it says trigger mod but I’ll add my two cents . He thought it felt as good or better than his FX guns. So heavy for me. This, BTW, is a Chinese clone of a HW40 at about 1/10 the cost. I’ve had my Beeman P17 for a couple of years now and have made some very extreme modifications to it that I thought would be interesting to share. https://www.airgundepot.com/beeman-p17.html. Beeman QB78 Wood Stock .22 Cal . Piston seal Beeman P17 . by Stephen Archer – January 27, 2019 Hard Air Magazine. I’ve had my Beeman P17 for a couple of years now and have made some very extreme modifications to it that I thought would be interesting to share. I lubed it up as well. After reading about the P17 coming up several times in the "Cheap airguns that surprised you" thread I had to try one. I've got my Beeman P17 pistol. But the adjustable rear sight, utilitarian recoil pad and the overall appearance of the trigger guard scored a B minus. Any tips on how to make it lighter? I have owned and shot both a Beeman P17 and HW40. I have one of these little wonder guns myself and need to do this!! Beemanp17 mod questions. Its a really fun gun to shoot but tends to get a bit tiring shooting it all day long. Beeman P17 Modifications. I've got my Beeman P17 pistol. Its look good, shoots better. Essentially what this does is allow the piston to suck air in for about the first 1″ of its stroke. So I ordered a couple to try out. Originally the trigger pull was 2 lbs 11 oz. Accuracy remains stellar, with the only air rifle in my collection that can beat it being my Walther LGR, a purpose built 10m match rifle. The longer barrel quiets the pop of the P17 fairly well, but could still really benefit from a LDC. Likes : 0 | Subscribe. Sounds like blasphemy, but it really feels right in there with my match grade gun triggers. Very substantial feel and yes the trigger was nothing you would expect for the price break of gun. Components are machined stainless steel (sears, springs, pins, hammer, cams, valve parts) and the external trigger, safety and over lever lock parts are aluminum. Author Topic: Beeman P17 (Read 8281 times) Guest; Beeman P17 « ... Easy mod, I used green vinyl gardners tape and fabricated a shim using some hole punches. Anybody know of a cocking aid that mounts onto the gun to assist in closing the stroke and how much it cost and availability? Fits the Benjamin Discovery, Maximus and Crosman 2260 rifles. I'll sniff around the web some more. Top . Beeman P17 trigger pull. The gun also smelled from some chemical and the package stated stated that the gun contained substances known to cause cancer. I have the P17 and the Weihrauch HW40 that it copies. I put a dot sight on one of mine. The Beeman QB78 deluxe air rifle is able to be upgraded with a two-stage trigger. Price: £1.95 OR076 O Ring/Valve seal P17 . No sight adjustment just a few practice shots to figure out where they were hitting and went for the father son shoot out. Trigger . Even the sides had burrs so I also did the sides and trigger. Jump to page: Results 1 to 15 of 23 Thread: Beeman P17 Reliability. I pick them up used when ever I find them. It is so smooth now. Good job, Rick. Best Possible KEL TEC P17 Trigger Upgrade to Boost Performance and Reliability! With these mods, hopefully, the P17 can give HW40 a good run for the money. Beeman is claiming up to 100 shots per fill, although this is not a regulated air rifle, so expect some significant FPS changes through those 100 shots. I like the feel and weight and it is offers great and inexpensive practice for 10 meter  and Steel PB's Plate shooting. I forgot mention, the trigger linkage was bone try. User account menu. It had rusting and pitting on the exterior, a bent barrel and spring, dry rotted stock butt, cracked piston, and a malfunctioning trigger. If you haven’t seen the video of it on my homepage, I’ll include it here: In the video, you can see it is no longer a pistol, but has been turned into a carbine. SOLD: Benjamin PROD Model BP2220 (Revised & Reduced Pricing, AGAIN), WTB .380 Shells for Crosman Trapmaster 1100. Got any new guns in the past few months? Thanks for sharing! 10 grain pellets shoot an average of 433 fps, meaning we’ve effectively taken a 2.8 FPE airgun and boosted its output to 4.2 FPE, most of that power coming from a longer barrel. Posted by 1 year ago. I'd be happy to modify yours. In hindsight, I believe I should have spent the extra on the HW40 and avoided all the hassle. The trigger guard had to be reshaped, as did the grip to provide the clearance for a full cocking stroke. Yes, ‘tis one in the same; I changed my name from “wjjones” on this board with the web site change. Beeman P17 best value out there? I read about the gummy like seal. 3. a good "Soft Hammer" Logged Gopher. So I ordered a couple to try out. Also want to do a longer bbl shoulder stocked one . Stock, it would shoot 7.4 grain pellets in the 410 fps range. Beeman P17 Reliability; Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last. I have an FT version of one of these actions that I tra... RE: How the vintage Diana ball-see trigger works, @gratewhitehuntr Thank you for the pics! In each case it was loaded and cocked but wouldn't fire. Show Printable Version; 15-02-16, 11:04 #1. Negative points compared to the HW40 trigger not as light and smooth. Log In Sign Up. I used two of those miniature utg Picatinny-to-dovetail adapters, and sawed two kerfs across the top dovetail rail. Forums › Air Pistols › Air Pistols – Discussion › Beeman P17 Pistol (model 2004) quick review… Hint, I love this gun! 10 meter target, maybe it will be improved if trigger pull will be modified. I have had one since they were introduced. Price: £10.98 PG103 Frame with left grip. This is the only reason I knocked a point off for accuracy. I am using RWS pellet 8.3grains, 400fps. Rear sights not as good and require frequent re-zero. RiaanduToit. 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